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Sunset at a Crossroads

Sunset Presbyterian Church is at a crossroads – and while it may seem like it has arrived at this crossroads in the past few weeks, she has been here for years.

The crucial question being asked at this crossroads is: Will we make the necessary changes to reach a younger generation? Significant and lasting change, a commitment to continual change to reach and ever-changing world.

The challenge facing the congregation is attempting to please all the people-all the time. But while this might seem logical for a large church with multiple demographics, it simply doesn’t jive with the biblical definition of church.  Church was never meant to be about pleasing any demographic – rather it’s God-given purpose is to reach a demographic. While some may think this is the same thing I would argue that it is not.

Churches seeking to reach a demographic (or group of people) rather than please them are filled with members who understand the concept of sacrifice. Older generations must give up their desires when they become hurdles to reach the next.  This is doubly important because in most churches the older generation fund the majority of a churches operating budget. Also they often hold well established lines of political power to impact important decisions.

While the immediate future of Sunset may seem grim, I have hope that a healthy, effective and even larger church can emerge. This will only come about it its members are willing to sacrifice and understand their role in reaching new people for Christ. There are tens of thousands of people within the geographical location of Sunset that are in desperate need of being introduced to Jesus. My prayer is that Sunset would emerge as one of the primary vehicles the LORD uses to reach these people.

Dont give up the fight Sunset for this generation..

 
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Posted by on October 10, 2010 in Uncategorized

 

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Resurrection Day

 
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Posted by on April 4, 2010 in Uncategorized

 

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Never Enough Staff

One thing in ministry that is tough is not focusing entirely on what you think you need when it comes to staff.  I know moving from a team of 5 full-time staff people down to 1 working in our middle school ministry has been a tough transition over the past 6 years.  I read this article yesterday and it bothered me a bit…I think in a good way.

You’ll Never Have Enough Staff

When I was hired to join the team at Granger we had 400 people and 5 staff members. And we all did everything. I remember in those early days thinking, When we can just hire one more person, then things will be good. Or I’d visit a church with 15 or 20 staff and think, Man—must be nice to have so much money and so many staff members. Someday when we get there—life will be nice!

I’ve now been at Granger more than fifteen years. I’ve seen it grow from 400 to more than 5,000. I’ve served with a church staff team as small as 5 people and as many as 95. And we have never had enough staff. It has never been comfortable. We’ve always gone into every year wanting to hire more people than we’ve been able to. And over the past three years—we’ve actually had to reduce staff while the ministry continues to grow.

I’ve visited hundreds of other churches…and I’ve actually never talked to a pastor who thought he had enough staff. I’ve never met a team who had so much money they could hire anyone they wanted.

Whether yours is a church of a hundred, a thousand, or ten thousand, if your goal is to accomplish the Great Commission, you will never have enough staff. If you think you’re the exception and you have enough staff, then you need to get a bigger dream. Are all the people within driving distance of your church already following Christ, growing in their faith, and taking steps in their spiritual journey? No? I didn’t think so. If you think you have enough staff, you may need to ask God for the perspective to see the need around you!

And you know what? Not having enough staff is a good thing. It forces us to our knees. It requires that we get really smart about the priorities of the church. It compels us toward creativity and innovation. And it makes us get serious about leveraging the time and talents of our volunteers.

I’ve been to churches in which the pastors do everything and the church members see it as their responsibility to warm the pews and “keep the pastor accountable.” Where is that in the Bible? Instead of agonizing over how to find the money to hire staff, what if you spent your time figuring out how to motivate the members to take part in the ministry. Your church may have a long and rich tradition of laziness. The pastors or leaders who preceded you may have bought into the lie that they were supposed to do everything. They may have spent their time teaching the congregation about the nuances of transubstantiation, but forgot to mention that God wants them actively involved in the lives of others. It may take months or years to transform your church into an army of volunteers that influences your community through service and love.

(the original article can be found HERE)

 
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Posted by on March 16, 2010 in Uncategorized

 

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Tell Someone You DON’T Like Them

Tell Someone You DON’T Like Them…could this actually be good advice for most of us today?

This past Thursday I guest posted a blog entry over on Tyler’s page about churchrater.com (you can read it HERE if you’re interested) and I shared one of the blind spots in leadership is that people rarely tell you want you should improve on, instead they will simply leave your ministry if they are dissatisfied enough.  Doing so robs us in leadership of the opportunity to learn and grow into better, more effective leaders.  Sadly to make matters worse many will gladly share the”issues” they have with you with just about anyone with ears.  Throughout a decade in youth ministry I haven’t been naive to this or ever pretended it didn’t exist, in fact being the confrontational person that I am I would often go after such people once I hard of their “issue” second hand. Lately I find myself much less interested in having those conversations.  I could easily name probably ten situations off the top of my head which I’ve heard secondhand of issues people are having with church leadership and have not shared it with the leader involved (some of them involving me).

What prevents most people from sharing their gripes with another?  I’m sure some of you would say it is a personality thing; “I’m just non-confrontational.” Maybe you think it wouldn’t be worth it, the person wouldn’t change anyways.    Whatever is stopping you I would ask you to pause long enough to consider the ways someone might be able to change/improve if you shared your thoughts in a thoughtful manner.  We all have flaws, weaknesses, insecurities…and you must remember that those of us in leadership, our flaws are much more visible and easy to critique.  An old recovery principle comes to mind; the only way to conquer an issue is to go through it…not around it.  Together we can help each other become better people, if we engage the conversation dealing with the REAL issues…and part of that conversation has to include a willingness to share what we don’t like about them. Check out Matthew 18 for some divine thoughts on this topic :)

 
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Posted by on February 27, 2010 in Uncategorized

 

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Church: Love It, Don’t Leave It

The Church doesn’t seem to be all that popular these days…and it happens to be the very organization I work for and might end up leading some day. I can understand why many are leaving the Church these days, heck I’ve even thought before of throwing in the towel and getting a “real” job at times.  I came across the article below and really resonate with what the guy says.

 

Church: Love It, Don’t Leave It

By Kevin DeYoung and Ted Kluck

Here’s what Bono, Oprah, and the guru speakers on PBS won’t tell you: Jesus believed in organized religion and he founded an institution. Of course, Jesus had no patience for religious hacks and self-righteous wannabes, but he was still Jewish. And as Jew, he read the Holy Book, worshiped in the synagogue, and kept Torah. He did not start a movement of latte-drinking disciples who excelled in spiritual conversations. He founded the church (Matt. 16:18) and commissioned the apostles to proclaim the good news that Israel’s Messiah had come and the sins of the world could be forgiven through his death on the cross (Matt. 28:18-20; Acts 2:14-36).

For almost two millennia, it was axiomatic that Christians, like, actually went to church (or at least told other Christians they did). From Cyprian to Calvin it was believed that for those to whom God “is Father the church may also be Mother.” But increasingly Christians are trying to get more spiritual by getting less church.

Take a spin through the religion section at your local bookstore. What you’ll find there is revealing – there are “revolutionary” books for stay at home moms, teenagers, and Christian businessmen. There are lots of manifestos. And most of the books about church are about people leaving the church to “find God.” There are lots of Kerouacian “journey” stories, and at least one book about the gospel according to Starbucks. It used to be you had to overthrow a country to be considered a revolutionary, and now, it seems, you just have to quit church and go pray in the woods.

We’ve been in the church our whole lives and are not blind to its failings. Churches can be boring, hypocritical, hurtful, and inept. The church is full of sinners. Which is kind of the point. Christians are worse than you think. Our Savior is better than you imagine.
But the church is not all about oppression and drudgery. Almost every church we know of visits old people, brings meals to new moms, supports disaster relief, and does something for the poor. We love the local church, in spite of its problems, because it’s where we go to meet God. It’s not a glorified social/country club you attend to be around people who talk and look just you do. It’s a place to hear God’s word spoken, taught and affirmed. It’s a place to sing praises to God, and a place to serve others. It’s a place to be challenged.

The church is more than plural for Christian. It is both organism and organization, a living thing comprised of a certain order, regular worship services, with doctrinal standards, institutional norms, and defined rituals. Without the institution of the church nurturing the flock and protecting the faith for two thousand years, there would be no Christianity. If Gen Xers (like us) and their friends want to be against something, start a revolution. If you want to conserve truth and grace for twenty centuries, plant a church.

We love the church because Christ loved the church. She is his bride–a harlot at times, but his bride nonetheless, being washed clean by the word of God (Eph. 5:25-26). If you are into Jesus, don’t rail on his bride. Jesus died for the church, so don’t be bothered by a little dying to self for the church’s sake. If you keep in mind that everyone there is a sinner (including yourself) and that Jesus Christ is the point and not you, your dreams, or your kids, your church experience might not be as lame as you fear.

Perhaps Christians are leaving the church because it isn’t tolerant and open-minded. But perhaps the church-leavers have their own intolerance too–intolerant of tradition, intolerant of authority, intolerant of imperfection except their own. Are you open-minded enough to give the church a chance–a chance for the church to be the church, not a coffee shop, not a mall, not a variety show, not Chuck E. Cheese, not a U2 concert, not a nature walk, but a wonderfully ordinary, blood-bought, Spirit-driven church with pastors, sermons, budgets, hymns, bad carpet and worse coffee?

The Church, because it is Christ’s church, will outlive American Idol, the NFL, and all of our grandkids. We won’t last, but the Church will. So when it comes to church, be like Jesus: love it, don’t leave it. As Saint Calloway once prophesied to the Brothers of Blues, “Jake, you get wise, you get to church.”

You can find the original article HERE from WashingtonPost.com

Kevin DeYoung is senior pastor at University Reformed Church in East Lansing, Michigan. He serves on the executive team of RCA Integrity, a renewal group within the Reformed Church of America. Ted Kluck’s work has appeared in ESPN the Magazine, Sports Spectrum Magazine, ESPN.com Page2, and several small literary journals.

 
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Posted by on October 16, 2009 in Uncategorized

 

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My Church #4

My church building would look something like this;

[this is a continuation of my blog series " My Church" I started HERE  #2 is HERE #3 HERE]

 
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Posted by on July 30, 2009 in Uncategorized

 

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My Church #3

My church would not have memorials.

Some of you might not even know what I am talking about because you have always been part of churches who have held this as a value…a memorial is something physical that is bought in memory of a lost loved one and is given to the church with the idea that they would proudly display it in remembrance of them.  While I have seen them run the gambit from a tree all the way to a life-size statue of someone…usually it is something that relates with where the deceased had passion. Let me just say to anyone out there that have done a memorial or believes strongly in them…I totally get WHY you would want to have such a thing represented in a place that meant so much to a lost loved one.  That being said this blog series is all about “My Church” so I am sharing with you some thoughts on why if I designed a church it would not have memorials.  There are number of issues that come to mind, but one permeates all the others: memorials take the focus off of Christ and place it on people.  It seems throughout church history Christians have struggled with how much honor should be given to themselves.  Whether they glorify them as saints like Catholics do or make them into dirty rags like good old Baptists do (I can say that cause I used to be one) Christians just can’t seem to get this one right.  Church is supposed to be about Jesus Christ, not us…so to me it follows that as much as humanly possible we must seek to lay aside our glory (however due it may be) and seek to point towards Jesus. Could even our building and church grounds be seen as opportunities to point people towards Jesus? I tend to think so. While that seems enough of a reason to me not to have them, here are a number of others that make me wanna throw them out;

  • Once given and displayed at the church it becomes impossible to have remove such a display…even decades after the person has passed away.
  • This is often one of the most political parts of a church…
  • Whose “worthy” of a memorial anyway? How could anyone ever be denied a memorial at a church?  Allowing some to have memorials and not others creates a hierarchal structure in the church that should not exist.
  • Memorials cost money to maintain over the years and can often take vital church resources to keep them.

I know this post might have hit a nerve with some of you in light of recent events…but I ask you to pause and think about my concerns before you respond.  As a pastor our job is to continue the work of the Chief Shepherd, drawing all the lost sheep back into the pen. In the end the sheep matter deeply to Him and we remain as His living memorials. 

And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
1 Peter 5:4TNIV

All memorials will fade down here…how much better for us to keep our focus on receiving Crowns that will never fade or tarnish.

[this is a continuation of my blog series " My Church" I started HERE & #2 is HERE]

 
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Posted by on May 31, 2009 in Uncategorized

 

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Quit Trying To Be A Hammer…

I read the below article at churchrelevance.com and thought it was pretty interesting…they tend to have some good articles on ministry. Having attended and worked at a “megachurch” in the past (now 14K people attend it) I have always been a fan…mostly because of just how much God used it to form me. So yeah check it out and let me know what you think.

toolbox

In the big picture, a toolbox with all hammers isn’t very effective. You can hit nails, pry, and not much more. A good toolbox has hammers, wrenches, files, and screwdrivers. It has a drill, some pliers, and plenty of other tools.

So why do so many churches try to be a hammer?

Eugene Cho of Quest Church (Seattle, WA) recently blogged about the pursuit so many churches have to be a megachurch. He states:

Megachurches only comprise 1% of the churches in North America. But then why do the majority of the conferences revolve around the megachurches and their pastors?

I think megachurches and their leaders are doing phenomenal ministry.  I really do.  But we’ve elevated this 1% as the epitome and face of a successful ministry and created a machine of conferences, publishers, books, and networks based on this very limited expression.

Craig Groeschel of LifeChurch.tv (Edmond, OK) puts it this way:

In order to reach people that no one is reaching, you will have to do things that no one is doing. But in order to do things that no one is doing, you can’t do what everyone else is doing.

We each have a unique God-given calling, but many of us want to live the calling of  the ministers in the limelight. Likewise, each church has a unique God-given calling, but too many churches distract themselves by pursuing the calling of famous megachurches. Consider how 1 Corinthians 12 reads when substituting church terms:

The Church has many different parts, not just one part. If the house church says, “I am not a part of the Church because I am not a megachurch,” that does not make it any less a part of the Church. And if the rural church says, “I am not part of the Church because I am not a gigachurch,” would that make it any less a part of the Church? If the whole Church were a gigachurch, how would you reach rural areas? Or if the whole Church were a rural church, how would you reach urban areas?

But the Church has many parts, and God has put each part just where he wants it. How strange the Church would be if it had only one part! Yes, there are many parts, but only one Church. The gigachurch can never say to the megachurch, “I don’t need you.” The Internet church can’t say to the church plant, “I don’t need you.”

In fact, some parts of the Church that seem weakest and least important are actually the most necessary.

To clarify, I do think it is good to study successful churches when the principles learned are considered within the context of your church’s unique calling. And I do believe that good ministry typically grows churches. However, some of the greatest ministries have the smallest numbers. Sometimes small is needed to be effective. Sometimes huge is needed.

I recommend that you study them all. Learn from megachurches, house churches, rural churches, and the rest.

Above all else, never lose focus of staying true to your church’s purpose. If God wants you to be a hammer, be a hammer. If God wants you to be a wrench, be a wrench.

[if you choose you can read the original article HERE]

 
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Posted by on May 17, 2009 in Uncategorized

 

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My Church #2

My church would be filled with passionate worshipers…with lots of freedom and variety.

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Growing up in an old school Baptist church I learned a lot about the bible and formed a pretty solid doctrinal foundation that much of my faith is built on. I am very grateful for my sweet grandmother taking me to church at a young age…however looking back this church seemed to lack one very important thing; passionate worshipers.  Yeah we sang hymns…even repeated the good lines twice…heck we even had a banjo at our church! But I don’t think much of it was worship.  Honestly looking back I think most of it was a bunch of people singing songs that made them feel good; good about themselves and their church.  I attended this church for years and yet didn’t experience worship until I was 16 trying out a new church that would later become my home church of 8 years.  While there were a lot of things you could point to like drums, words you could understand and people actually singing loudly in the audience with hands raised and eyes closed…I believe the core difference came down to freedom.  Where my former church had been about songs being sung over and over again…the exact same way in the same key, this church allowed there to be freedom in how worship was expressed. People in the seats felt free to do what they thought would express their worship to God without fear of people judging them for it.  I can remember the first few times I raised my hands…amazing how much fear can surround such a simple motion even in a place where most of the people around you were doing it.

My absolute favorite worship group is Hillsong.  These guys are amazing…not just on their albums but in person. When they came to my church in Michigan I got to meet them not once but twice.  I have yet to meet people with a greater passion to worship God & lead others to do the same.  I get each of their CDs and have been impacted by all of them. To paint a picture; when they first came to our church I can remember standing there in the auditorium waiting for them to come out and start the thing off.  The people there were so into it that they stood up 15 or more minutes before it started singing along to the CD playing through the speakers. Now this wouldn’t have been all that amazing except for the fact that people weren’t just singing…they were worshiping. As I began to worship myself I felt the presence of God in a powerful way in that place…all this before it officially started!  Something broke in my heart that night and I think our church was never quite the same again.  Freedom became the hallmark of our worship times…and the volume from those of us in the seats definitely increased a great deal.  While I cannot speak for the hearts of the others, I know the more passionate I got about worshiping, the quicker my heart became His. Since those early years of beginning to worship, I’ve kept a commitment to regularly attend churches of differing worship styles than my home church.  I encourage all believers to do this for experiencing different expressions of worship keeps us fresh in our faith and reminds us God is worshipped in far more ways than our particular style.

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

2 Corinthians 3:17 TNIV

God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.

John 4:24 TNIV

Only God can take a little ol’ school Baptist boy that grew up with stale hymns and make him into a passionate worshiper.

[this is a continuation of my blog series " My Church" I started HERE]

 
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Posted by on May 10, 2009 in Uncategorized

 

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Worse Than Swine Flu

One of my favorite speakers, Ed Young from Fellowship Church in Texas.

 
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Posted by on May 6, 2009 in Uncategorized

 

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